Well this is sad, someone posted a helpful link on this thread which has now been removed. I guess I know why, it was a link to alibaba supplier page, maybe selling is not allowed here?
The only problem is, the page had the best product information I have found so far, including dimensions of a pcb footprint with overlap for soldering it was going to be copy paste to inkscape job done. Now I am searching alibaba (not the easiest place to look there is so much stuff) to try and find the page again as I didn't save the link...